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to gays or people of religions that do things they don't agree with. several state senators regret their vote for this bill but one republican is still supporting this. >> they are free agents. felt if they have responded to all of the pressure, it has been intense, that is okay. they are all good friends of mine. steve pierce voted for this bill but now he is ptelling the governor he hopes she vetoes it. how do you respond to your colleague that says you and others have caved on this bill? >> he is a good friend. we have not caved. we had reservations at the beginning and we saw the outcry and realized it wasn't right. >> the bill says a business owner, church owner or coperation can deny service if motivated by religious belief if it burdens their belief. what did afraid would happen? >> it has gone from reality into perception and what is perceived is overriding of the bill. perception is it is a bad and going to be specific to gays. we didn't intend it that way. my colleague and i never thought it would be like that but that is the perception and horrible for the damage it is g
attest to that we don't see race, religion or sexual orientation, we see simply can you help us win ball games, produce on the field? that's why you can have a multitude of people who are black, white, poll nice, gay, whatever it may be and come together to lay for a common goal. >> us it end? -- where does it end? i'm a bears fan, so it hurts me to say -- [laughter] do you get a 5-yard penalty for an italian slur? where do we draw the line in terms of, you said it, word police in enforcing this kind of rule, you know? if you call me an irish drunk, i consider that a compliment. [laughter] bill: not at 11 a.m. you don't. >> well, you know, it's 5:00 somewhere, right? but in the african-american community if the n-word is used with another african-american, that is soon as almost complimentary, a term of endearment. so what if it's being said -- i just think you're opening up a pandora's box that will be um possible to -- impossible to regulate. bill: you make an excellent point. gotta run. martha, what's next? martha: well, the disastrous rollout of the obamacare web site, all sides have
and ice of russia. bill: mike religioners is said putin is running circles around the united states. what do you expect him to do? >> well, i think the president needs to significantly change the u.s. policy. he is based the policy on russia when they feel more secure causes the world to feel more secure, actually what we're seeing the reverse. when russia feels more secure they tend to be more adventurese. that is certainly what we see playing out in the ukraine today. >> so what does our president do? >> well there's a couple of things the president can do. he one, can strengthen our ties with nato. he is exposed to expansion of nato that left ukraine, georgia, montenegro on hold. he could move forward with strengthening those ties. he could move to allow export of u.s. natural gas currently russia has a grip on europe where they are beholden to russia where they use it in the geopolitical leverage tool box. we can by entering into the opportunity to do that export and make a difference economically and have our al like some additional freedom. bill: there is a statement made by gentlem
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